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I find that the term JRPG is one of those things that people have such a hard time describing these days, it falls into the "I know it when I see it" and not a well defined set of criteria. Soulslike is another that I find people mistake all the time as just needing to have hard combat that involves dodging. As for what is a JRPG from your 10 games I would say Sea of Stars, Undertale, South Park, Pokemon and Honkai are all JRPGs, the rest are of different genres even though they are all RPGs.

Has become kind of a nonsense term to me that has still come to define a general look of a game, much like metroidvania.

I liken the term JRPG to MetroidVania or Roguelike; it's a reference to the origin of the genre but doesn't mean it has to be one of those franchises

JRPGs are a style of game, not dependent on Location.

Wizardry is the OG western RPG, but the newer games in the franchise are now made in Japan. Did they suddenly become JRPGs? No. This example kind of ends the conversation imo.

the J just needs to get dropped altogether. Not sure why that distinction was ever made. When I was a kid we just called them RPGs regardless of where they were made.

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I think there is certainly a huge disconnect between the way the term JRPG has been used by the east and the west to describe the genre as a whole. The label JRPG is probably antiquated and do for the dustbin, but the genre, I think, is alive and well, and could use a better name if anything. Maybe we can stop using the term JRPG and just fully transition over to Turn-based RPG, since at least in the west, that is what is meant by the term. When it comes to the eastern idea of JRPG, at least Japanese people wouldn't want the idea of what they offer to the genre to be based in the combat style, since like anime, it is more about the aesthetic and values the games espouse.

CRPG is another one, “computer” rpg sounds so vague but I guess it’s to denote those sorta isometric games with tabletop rpg rules. Gacha games not being called “krpgs” is interesting lol. 9:40 1. Looks like one. 2. Dunno what that is. 3. Nah. 4. Kinda. 5. Not sure what that is. 6. Haven’t played it yet. 7. Definitely. 8. I think so. 9. Gacha game 10. Yes, thanks to the MSQ.

jrpg is a genre name that only carries the j cause of the genres country of origin and the fact that at one time rpg's would have a distinct different feeling depending on where they came from . As the industry matured and talent both grew up with games and started to work outside of their own countries more and more the design philosophies of both started to appear in games from other countries then where those designs styles originated. that's why stuff like sea of stars can do the jrpg playbook without being in japan , why ffvii rebirth can do the Ubisoft playbook etc. as gaming became more borderless and creators became more aware of each others work it spawned creations that are inspired by others across the pond . in general Rpg mechanics are in every game, making games that traditionally not be considered one have the title rpg in them now but thats why over the years we came up with new genres. but for the fun of it here's what i think. Sea of Stars is a JRPG Stranger in paradise is a SoulsLike Undertale is a JRPG Bloodborne is a SoulsLike Cross Code is a Action RPG Nier Automata is a Action RPG South Park is a Jrpg Pokemon Scarlet is a JRPG Honkai Starrail is a JRPG Final Fantasy xiv is a MMORPG (or a visual novel when you get to Dawntrail) once again we are at a point where the creatives of the world are just creative and the J in JRPG is more legacy then actually meaning this style of game is only Japanese

This is a wonderful conversation and one that has been bothering me for some time as well. It's definitely an outdated term, much like Sci-Fi. But when someone says JRPG, the key hallmarks I look for are heavy emphasis on the narrative (doesn't necessarily have to be linear, see SaGa and Mana) and fairly structured, almost formulaic combat (though there are notable exceptions)

I've long considered the J in JRPG to be "Japanese" in the style sense of things, not literally from Japan. Like... let's say French Bread. I most certainly don't expect the loaf I see on the store shelf to be literally from France, but I have an idea of what I'm getting. As for the games in the end being JRPGs or not, gut feeling: 1: Maybe? Haven't played myself 2: Absolutely not 3: Probably wouldn't call it that myself, but I get the comparison and might recommend to a JRPG fan. 4: Nope, not even close. 5: Uh, kinda, yeah sure. 6: Nope 7: Yes 8: ... I don't want to call it a JRPG, but it kinda is. 9: I personally think the Gacha overrules any other genre consideration here, and I still play it myself. 10: No

Does make one stop and ponder things, seeing videos like this. Something to make me think, and that's a good thing.

The one that was made by the japanese developer 😁. For me it's got nothing to do with art style but today we are seeing more and more western devs making games deeply inspired by classic jrpgs so it's starting to blur the lines. Everything should just be generalised as an RPG by this point 😅

Well done with this video, mate!

Wait. Sephiroth on hard mode in FF7 Remake is simple and easy? Im being gaslighted over here.

I thought this said fem boy + was disappointed 😢

I’ve played through the demo twice now, and I feel like I like it even less! 😩

I feel like this is gonna be some generic open world game with a mana theme laid over it

I hope your life is doing well.

I absolutely adore the Mana series, despite only getting into it recently (aside from playing Secret of Mana at a friend's house as a kid), but a few notes on availability: Adventures of Mana was actually released on Vita internationally, not just in Japan! In fact, it's still available on the Vita store to this day. Legend of Mana's modern remaster is sadly not on Xbox, but it is on Switch, PS4 and PC. Visions is actually gonna be the first Mana game on an Xbox platform! The Secret of Mana (2018) remake is PS4, Vita and PC, sadly no Switch version. Also, most of the bugs and crashing problems have been fixed as far as I'm aware

I played Legend of Mana back in the day and really loved it. I have Trials of Mana (the remake) in my backlog now.

I haven't really paid attention to this game, I thought it was basically the NES Remix games from the Wii U/3DS era with slightly different branding, but it's cool to see that I was wrong

Fun times with Nintendo. Love to see it.

I might be in the minority for this, but I really enjoyed the Secret of Mana remake, it's far from perfect, but still, the little extra interactions at the inn's, seeing your weapons change as you upgrade them, little things like that. The only other version that I maybe would prefer is a rom hack of the original, that adds more to the script and fleshed out the story/ characters more 😊

I only played SD2 via the TRIALS of Mana remake which is so much better then the SNES version that never really left Japan until the Switch collection of it Adventures on Mana the VITA remake it NEVER LEFT JAPAN though. But the party members in the VISIONS of Mana demo for in battles are IMHO SLOW as hell and their AI is pure CRAP that the full game needs the SAME Beginner/Can't really DIE difficulty that the SD3 remake (Trials of Mana game) has as in IF all 3 party members DIE in Visions of Mana on BEGINNER mode the game would have a REVIVE them to continue the battles with FULL HP/MP counts while the bosses themselves kept their CURRENT HP left counts left once all 3 party members die and are revived with full HP/MP counts.

Ah I think I'm gonna finally pull the trigger and get trials of mana, been on my list for a while

This video came in a week after I decided to give Trials of Mana a...well...a trial! This video is the more interesting thing to do before choosing your first Mana game to play. A culmination of reddit and wiki entries sprinkled with the Joesephyr touch. Listen to the man. If you've never tried a Mana game before and you wanna have a great first impression out of it, go with Trials of Mana ❤

Awesome video, mate! I've been enjoying the Mana series for a long time now. Trials of Mana is also my favourite! Having played Visions of Mana's demo just recently, I can tell you it made me feel like a kid again. It feels, looks, and plays like a Mana game! I'm looking forward to its final release.

Mana series explained in under 15 minutes

Aerith was my choice back then turns out she was the same in real life so if i were to play this she will always be the one

ot: Where was that shirt from? I dig it.

I played final fantasy adventure for the first time a few years ago via emulation on psp, and I had a ton of fun. I bet if I played it as a kid, it would have been one of my favorites. I opted for Final Fantasy Legends 2 instead when I had the option for a birthday present.

I’ve played the originals of Mana 1 and 2 and love them, especially the first one on GameBoy. I have never played a 3D mana game but am looking forward to this one.

I needed this little primer, I always get the Mana and Saga games confused cause of the four letter _a_a names.

Secret of Mana: It holds a special place in my heart, but my thumbs have told me they will go on strike if I ever play it again. Original Trials of Mana: This is probably a game I know extremely well without actually knowing the machine code, and I've played it through so often that I know what events occur based on who is in the party and in which order (and yes, the order the characters in your party joins up matters!). Insane amount of replayability if you like story-heavy, character-driven games. The DS Mana games, particularly Heroes, are pretty good evidence that the DS should never have been used to make RTS games. You can issue a command to a unit, and they'll get to their destination, but it's going to feel like they're swimming. In molasses (treacle). In February. For a guy who started RTS gaming with Warcraft II on a potato-powered PC, this was pure torture. Legend of Mana, as far as I'm aware, is the only Mana game with a robust crafting system. When you look over at GameFAQs for this game, there are crazy detailed recipes to crank out ridiculous gear (I've never tested them in No Future difficulty, but they do make quick work of Nightmare difficulty), most of them requiring that you max out a location's element stats. My only complaint with that is that the only way to really fail at crafting is to add the wrong ingredient, or add the right ingredient at the wrong place in the sequence, there's no dice roll for the base item... and then there's the fact that farming some ingredients (e.g. spirit coins, fruit) is a massive pain because of the time eaten up by waiting or setup. The "practice makes perfect" skill development in Legend was probably my favorite of the Mana games I've played, you assign basic skills to the buttons, and -mash- use them in combat until you learn new skills. The storytelling in my mind is second only to Trials, the three mainline quests are dramatic and gut-wrenching without the bitter pill ending of Dawn of Mana. They trial ballooned an anime version of this game, and aside from the too-faithful-by-half character design, the decision to alter the story to shoehorn both main characters into the anime wasn't entirely smart in my opinion, I felt that they probably could have told the story with just Shiloh. The Trials remake fixes a number of issues from the SNES version like the cooldown timer for enemy skills continuing to run during a long animation, meaning the enemy can on occasion fire off two full-screen attacks in quick succession and wipe the party. They also fixed the "rigor mortis" shuffling your party will perform when they enter combat, making combat faster and more dynamic. I loved the general art style, I loved that the all of the original stories are brought over faithfully and expanded, I loved the fact that AoE enemy attacks aren't guaranteed hits as long as you know how to dodge or jump. I wish the 2nd/3rd character AI knew how to dodge AoE attacks, I wish the entire soundtrack was recorded by studio orchestra, I wish the seed system (random loot) was reproduced more faithfully, I wish they had played with character animations more (there's only a small handful used in most conversations) than they worked on animation for fan service, I wish there was an actual missile weapon other than Angela's magic so you didn't have to constantly and awkwardly jump attack enemies in the air, I wish they didn't put invisible walls on staircases when fall damage isn't modeled, and the English language voice casting/acting made me want to put the game on mute at times. I liked it, but I didn't love it the way I loved the original, it really felt that they were much more limited in terms of development and creative resources compared to a quarter of FF7 Remake, there were a bunch of little things that probably could have used more polish. Echoes... Why. Just why. (Almost forgot: For the algorithm! Trials of Mana is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits?)

Thanks for making this Joe. Mana has been one of my most cherished franchises ever since I was about 9 and played Secret of Mana. It's what got me into RPGs to begin with, so SD2 is extra special to me. I honestly worried for years that the IP was just dead, because that's how awful Dawn of Mana was - Visions aka SD5 is the first "mainline" game since. Oh and just fun trivia: The mana team has had a LOT of influence on various titles, including the combat for Chrono Trigger and a lot of the team was brought on to FFXI - something I only personally discovered a few years ago and honestly it explains quite a lot about that game. So while I am trying to temper expectations, the hopes are quite high for Visions.

I really enjoyed Trials of Mana finished it 3 times to get the plat. Unfortunately it recently left ps+ extra.

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Is it still possible to do dissidia nt?

I like what visions became. Secret of mana remake was so disappointing, as it felt like they did a cheap job with crappy character model and graphics. SoM should look like visions! 😢

Joesephyr VII: Rebirth

Rip soldier first class that i grinded to the max. This is the reason why i dont invest money into mobile games

9/10 game for me

Personnaly, the indoors exploration not being in the game killed me.....

Omggg. I can't wait for the remastered soundtrack 😊

Ooh I could tell what was in that box even when I wasn’t looking at the screen, grats! I’d say you hit the jackpot, first EVO then winning that LEGO set! That’s one of my biggest hobbies now, I wish I got back into it before Covid cause I heard the prices were more acceptable before then.

Congrats on the wins! Can the tanktop become like a... norm? ;P

I was hype when they announced this game, but I really wasn't expecting the featureset and presentation to be as wonderful as they ended up. I'm definitely crossing my fingers and hoping for a SNES edition! That LEGO NES is hype, congrats on the W!

This is such a cool idea breathes new life into these old titles